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We're so pleased she can us today to share her insights navigating these questions in her own classes and scholarship. Anne, welcome to Common Law. I'm delighted to be. Even back in when UVA Law first started admitting women, Maxwell Nebraska swingers sex slut women few law schools across the country allowed women to study law.
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They would be forced to listen to conversations that the institutional leaders called obscene, and that, in some way, that would ruin their virtue as potential wives and mothers. The institutions expressed concerns about having women in law schools.
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Why would we waste this important slot on someone who, by nature or otherwise wasn't necessarily well-suited to the job, and who wasn't going to stick with the job? How did schools like UVA decide to admit women?
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And did you end up coming to have strong convictions about what materials should be in the casebook, how it should be taught? I had been told, like so many other female law professors of my generation, that we shouldn't be writing about women's topics, that we shouldn't write about women's topics before we got tenure, and that even after tenure, if we wanted to be taken seriously, we shouldn't be writing about issues that were important to women or thought to be important Arizona adult directory women.
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We just shouldn't do it. I don't want to teach the law of rape anymore. And it's not my stance in part because of the conversations that I have with my students.
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Most people do have sex. And the law is regulating our activity. It is telling us when our activity is lawful or unlawful. So that's important. But more than that, I think that because so many of the students themselves have been survivors of this crime and they have a stake in what the reforms should look like, it's really important to continue to discuss it in the classroom.
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